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Bitcoin Q&A: Energy Consumption

aantonop · 96.5K views · 2017-12-12 · 5:51

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Andreas Antonopoulos answers a Bitcoin Q&A question about energy consumption in mining. He argues that mining is arbitrage for the cheapest electricity, drives investment in renewables, and that the traditional financial system has hidden externalities.

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HN commenters link it as a defense of Bitcoin's energy use, offered as a rebuttal to claims that mining is wasteful.

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oraphalous · 2021-02 · Reference

"and many enthusiasts don't seem to understand enough about Bitcoin to even realize it." Yeah because - smart people in the bitcoin space NEVER spent any time thinking about energy consumption. [VIDEO]

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siwatanejo · 2020-12 · Reference

> The second one is that it makes illegal activities easier, and at a larger scale. It's quite common right now for companies to be coerced pay millions of dollars to anonymous criminals, all enabled with cryptocurrencies. For the vast majority of businesses/individuals, it is governments and banking cartels the ones stealing your money (via inflation and fractional reserve respectively) without recourse. Switching to a world in which, instead of all of us, but only a few, are stolen money, is a bit better. > The most prominent negative effect is the huge energy waste, which doesn't help when we are trying to cut on our carbon footprint Debunked. Sources: * [LINK] * [LINK] * [LINK] * [VIDEO] * [LINK] * [LINK] * [LINK]

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craigc · 2018-07 · Reference

Based on your reply, I am fairly convinced you have already made up your mind so it is somewhat pointless to spend my time trying to convince you otherwise, but I will say a couple things. For one, while our civilized world is built on trust and you may trust Banks, Governments, Tech companies etc, the majority of millennials do not trust Banks or Governments. Numbers outside the US are even lower. For more information about this I would recommend watching this presentation: [LINK] I believe money is something that you should be able to have full control and ownership of. Governments and banks can lock or seize accounts/funds for any reason. Banks can limit deposit/withdrawal/transfer amounts. I don’t think that right now this is a big problem, but in the future, imagine banks getting hacked and funds stolen or even a bank run. There are a lot of scenarios where I can see our financial system failing. If inflation rates increase then it will drive more people towards things like Gold and Bitcoin. Look at what has been going on in Venezuela. As far as the electricity use, please consider taking a look at this article: [LINK] It also links to a couple of other sources that show how gold mining, paper currency/minting, and electricity used from the banking system all use orders of magnitude more electricity than Bitcoin mining does. If ultimately Bitcoin can replace banks or even gold, then it will have done the world a favor. Most miners also use renewable energy such as hydro

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