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Stop Signs Suck and We Should Get Rid of Them

Not Just Bikes · 906K views · 2020-01-13 · 6:04

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Not Just Bikes argues that stop signs are a poor traffic control, drawing on Dutch practice and the Idaho stop to show intersections can be safer without them, especially for cyclists.

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Cited in threads about cyclist safety and traffic law as an explanation of why removing stop signs can improve safety.

Recommended by 4 HN people across 3 months · HN mentions 2022–2024

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xputer · 2022-08 · Strong recommendation

If there's that much traffic, a four way stop will be even worse than a roundabout. You'll need a turbo roundabout, traffic lights or grade separated intersections in that case. Four way stops are one of the dumbest inventions of man kind that are way over used in North America. Everyone has to stop all the time and it leads to scary situations at 2 way stops because people don't expect those anymore. Here is a great video about life without stop signs in the Netherlands: [VIDEO] And here are some infinitely better alternatives: Low traffic + low speed: raised intersections where right goes first. Medium traffic + medium speed: priority road with yield signs on side streets and roundabouts High traffic + medium speed: traffic lights High traffic + high speed: grade separated intersections

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ruuda · 2024-02 · Recommendation

Everybody here is discussing the car and the cyclist, but I don't see anybody considering the possibility that the intersection design is unsafe. That there is a stop sign is a pretty bad signal in itself, Not Just Bikes made a video explaining this: [VIDEO]

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aqme28 · 2022-04 · Recommendation

> Not saying its a bad idea, but I'm still struggling to see the full logic of it. If you don't have to stop at an intersection, you get through the intersection much faster and are therefore in less danger. This is true for all vehicles but especially true of bicycles, which don't always accelerate as fast. Here's a video demonstration [VIDEO]

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