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Why I deleted GrapheneOS

Louis Rossmann · 977.9K views · 2023-05-26 · 17:51

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Louis Rossmann explains why he stopped using GrapheneOS, describing his interactions with its lead developer Daniel Micay. It includes chat logs shown in the video.

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HN uses it as the key reference in arguments about Micay's conduct and GrapheneOS leadership, with some defending it and some urging skepticism.

Recommended by 1 HN people across 1 months · HN mentions 2023–2026

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bernoufakis · 2025-07 · Strong recommendation

> It's objectively clear though, that this is a very low quality video full of baseless speculation, and severely lacking any technical understanding and knowledge. "Baseless" could not be further away from the truth. You literally have the GOS developer messages coming in live while he rehashes frivolous accusations and threatening to exposing him. To claim objectivity, when you seem to cherry pick the parts of the video that would (loosely) fit your narrative. Where is your evidence that Rossmann is in anyway associated to harassment campaign against the project ? > This is exactly the same as going to a restaurant, having an argument with the owner, and then claiming that they might be putting poison in the food, even though there's absolutely zero evidence or anything that might indicate that, solely because you had a disagreement with someone and now want to harm their reputation. Damn, so close, you were almost there. A more accurate analogy you could have come up with, had you actually critically listened to Rossmann's argument in his video. Yes, it's like going to a restaurant and having a disagreement with the cook, for the latter to explicitly threaten to harm onto you. At that point, is it that far fetched to think he might poison the food ? When you know he has full control over the kitchen ? You can disagree with Rossmann perception of the actual threat, but you should at least admit that it is not absurd for Rossmann to think that someone who demonstrated such i

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oceanhaiyang · 2026-06 · Reference

Apologies, I didn’t catch this reply. I believe this video discusses some of these, I’ll have to scroll through Mastodon to find more. [VIDEO] Edit examples: I’m referring to Daniel Micay using the official account to fight other people. Seems I’m not up to date, he supposedly “stepped down” from fighting others, [LINK] I firmly recall within the past two years witnessing similar actions but I’ll have to keep searching

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Springtime · 2026-04 · Reference

More context on experiences with Micay[1]. Also went on long rant at Louis Rossmann[2] in an very knee-jerk tone, which led Rossmann to stop using it despite being a long-term advocate for GOS, due to trust issues. Likewise I don't doubt they're talented. [1] [LINK] [2] [VIDEO]

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