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Eliezer Yudkowsky: Dangers of AI and the End of Human Civilization | Lex Fridman Podcast #368

Lex Fridman · 2.2M views · 2023-03-30 · 3:17:51

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A three-hour Lex Fridman podcast conversation with AI researcher Eliezer Yudkowsky about the dangers of superintelligent AI and his argument that it could end human civilization. It covers AI alignment, why he thinks LLM capabilities are poorly understood, and the case for extreme caution.

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Mostly cited as the canonical statement of AI doomer views, with some recommending it and many criticizing it as irresponsible or wrong.

Recommended by 1 HN people across 1 months · HN mentions 2023–2024

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gregwebs · 2023-04 · Recommendation

There's no real acknowledgement in this conversation of the existential threat. I would recommend listening to Eliezer Yudkowsky on the subject [1] [2]: > If somebody builds a too-powerful AI, under present conditions, I expect that every single member of the human species and all biological life on Earth dies shortly thereafter. > There’s no proposed plan for how we could do any such thing and survive. OpenAI’s openly declared intention is to make some future AI do our AI alignment homework. Just hearing that this is the plan ought to be enough to get any sensible person to panic. The other leading AI lab, DeepMind, has no plan at all.There’s no proposed plan for how we could do any such thing and survive. OpenAI’s openly declared intention is to make some future AI do our AI alignment homework. Just hearing that this is the plan ought to be enough to get any sensible person to panic. The other leading AI lab, DeepMind, has no plan at all. It is a valid criticism Yudkowsky and others are over-staging the abilities of current day GPT. For example Eliezer says "can it reason? It can play chess". But I looked at a GPT chess game (actually published in an article on his less wrong site). GPT has no idea how to play chess. It can make some moves in the opening that match opening theory which it has seen, etc. But then it will lose a piece because it has no actual ability to think 2 moves ahead. And then when it gets into the end game it tries to make illegal king moves. As impres

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kemayo · 2024-12 · Criticism

tl;dr it's the same feature he's talking about, but also he's wrong in a very Yudkowsky way. I was curious about this so I hunted it down: [VIDEO] He speculates that Wikipedia got the idea from Arbital. Insofar as I can tell, that seems to be a wiki-like website that started around 2015 -- I had never heard of it, so it might be older? That does predate this specific implementation of popups on Wikipedia, which is from 2018. The fun context here is actually discussed in the article -- the genesis of the Wikipedia popups was a community gadget on Wikipedia (Navigation Popups) that's from much earlier. Oldest version I could casually dig up on Wikipedia is from 2007. Unless Arbital is vastly older than I think (older than LessWrong itself, which is from 2009), the chain of inspiration is presumably in the other direction. Or completely independent. The article is, overall, about why it took so long to go from that working example to something more robust.

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andrewfromx · 2023-11 · Reference

i feel the same way api but I did watch this entire thing [VIDEO] and now I can't stop thinking about Eliezer is so smart, smarter than me, should I listen?

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