Rust NYC: Jon Gjengset - Demystifying unsafe code

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saghm · 2024-12 · Recommendation

While I might agree that it's easy if you use a reference counter, this is not going to be as performant as the typical linked list written in C, which is why the standard library uses unsafe for its implementation of stuff like this. If it were "easy" to just write correct `unsafe`, then it would be easy to do it in C as well. Note that the converse to this isn't necessarily true! People I trust way more to write unsafe Rust code than me than me have argued that unsafe Rust can be harder than writing C in some ways due to having to uphold certain invariants that don't come up in C. While there are a number of blog posts on the topic that anyone interested can probably find fairly easily by googling "unsafe Rust harder than C", I'll break my usual rule of strongly preferring articles to video content to link a talk from youtube because the speaker is one of those people I mention who I'd trust more than me to write unsafe code and I remember seeing him give this talk at the meetup: [VIDEO]

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Sammi · 2020-04 · Recommendation

There's a great new talk by on Gjengset on youtube that tackles just this question: Rust NYC: Jon Gjengset - Demystifying unsafe code [VIDEO]

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ibraheemdev · 2021-05 · Reference

The rustnomicon is a very good resource. It's less of "the unsafe book" and more "the advanced book", covering lower-level details and advanced concepts that aren't touch on by the book. One gripe I have is that it kind of pushes the idea that unsafe is bad and evil, which is not true at all: > The Dark Arts of Unsafe Rust > THE KNOWLEDGE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF UNLEASHING INDESCRIBABLE HORRORS THAT SHATTER YOUR PSYCHE AND SET YOUR MIND ADRIFT IN THE UNKNOWABLY INFINITE COSMOS. I know it's a joke, and I laughed when I first read it. Unsafe is dangerous and requires care, but unsafe == evil is definitely not true. Jon Gjengset said it well in "Demystifying Unsafe Code" [0]: > One thing I keep observing about the Rust community is how we're all like allergic to unsafe code or we think that unsafe code is is totally fine and not nothing to worry about, and I wanted to take a little bit of time to talk about what unsafe is because I think a lot of where the communities lack of alignment on this particular topic comes from a fact that unsafe is a bit of a mystery to many of us Learning about unsafe is useful, and at time necessary, it's not inherently evil, nor should it be used too freely. [0]: [VIDEO]

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