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Hackers Testifying at the United States Senate, May 19, 1998 (L0pht Heavy Industries)

Joe Grand · 563.3K views · 2011-03-14 · 59:04

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C-SPAN footage of the L0pht hacker collective testifying before the US Senate Governmental Affairs Committee on May 19, 1998. The members discuss internet and computer security weaknesses. The uploader says the media remembered only the claim that they could take down the internet in 30 minutes.

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omgCPhuture · 2024-04 · Reference

OK, I am pretty sick of this, so excuse me for blogging a post, but decades of this crap is getting to me: Ok some bad actors abuse your bad crappy gear to pwn & spy, but you, Cisco, help your government spy on everyone, including allies, I would call this karma, but the scale you are aiding and abetting the US Gov do it on does not even compare. Frankly, nobody should be using any closed source networking gear, packet switching infrastructure has become way to important to rely on $corp and $bs sales line they are pushing. I get that you, Cisco, hav nobody to talk to about how you are being abused to aid your own government, that is how National Security Letters work: * Some alphabet soup picks up a phone to the domestic espionage part of the FBI wanting something not legal as of then. * FBI prepares another production of the dog & pony rubberstamp show trial known as FISA. * A whole charade is put on * and in the end the applicant gets to write a letter dictating that $us_company, must do $whatever the heck they want. * Include a gag order * and a friendly threat of getting charged under the Espionage Act (which essentially means you are convicted; the trial is a formality as just about any evidence is inadmissible, on national security grounds, of course.). * Somehow not see the obviously parallel to a circle jerk * Simultaneously confusing me on how that is different from say. China's way of doing things, except more shady and secretive. Cisco, Microsoft and Juniper shoul

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fragmede · 2022-08 · Reference

In Mr. Zatko's previous appearance before Congress* in 1998, he was addressed by his hacker nom-de-plume, Mudge. Perhaps they see fit to continue this practice. * [VIDEO]

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guiambros · 2022-06 · Reference

Joe Grand (aka "Kingpin") is the real deal. If anyone is not aware, Joe is one of the original members of the famous L0pht hacker group from the 90s [1], and testified in the historical US Senate hearing in 1998 [2][3] (as the youngest member, with just 22 at the time). Besides being a brilliant electric engineer, he's also a great storyteller. Worth checking some of his other reverse engineering videos on YT. [1] [LINK] [2] [LINK] [3] [VIDEO]

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