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Clay Shirky on Love, Internet Style

Chris Vertonghen · 105.5K views · 2007-07-12 · 9:14

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A short Supernova 2007 provocation in which Clay Shirky uses a 1300-year-old Japanese shrine, rebuilt periodically, as a metaphor for how networks change business and collective creativity.

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HN people cite it for the Ise shrine metaphor, that function rather than original material defines identity.

Discussed on HN; no positive recommendation is recorded in this export · HN mentions 2009–2024

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vvanpo · 2024-03 · Reference

I always thought the "made with love" taglines were inspired by the same Clay Shirky talk: [VIDEO]

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b2gills · 2020-04 · Reference

You do realize that comes from english right? if $you-are-hungry { make-a-sandwich() } make-a-sandwich() if $you-are-hungry; If you remove all of the non-letter characters, you are left with very understandable english sentences. if you are hungry make a sandwich make a sandwich if you are hungry So unless english is a second language to you, it should be fairly easy to understand. If you pay attention to how people use those different forms in english, you will also notice that the infix form of “if” tends to be used for simple short sentences. Which is exactly how I use it in Perl and Raku. sub factorial ( UInt $n ){ return 1 if $n == 0; return 1 if $n == 1; return $n * factorial($n - 1) } Though I might consider using `when` instead. sub factorial ( UInt $_ ){ return 1 when 0; return 1 when 1; return $_ * factorial($_ - 1) } Of course a junction would be useful sub factorial ( UInt $_ ){ return 1 when 0|1; return $_ * factorial($_ - 1) } You are probably having fits with that to. The thing is, that also reads fairly well in english. return one when [it is] zero or one Often times in informal english the “it is” in such a sentence is left off for brevity. So I left it off, because we are obviously talking about “it" (`$_`). I mean, what else could we be talking about? I could easily see this being said as a response to another person. > Alice: What result should we give the user? > > Bob: Return one when zero or one. > Otherwise multiply it by … You are probably thinking th

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rgrieselhuber · 2009-04 · Reference

Reminded me of Ise Shrine ( [LINK] ) and also Shirky's reference to it ( [VIDEO] ). The point there is that function is also a meaningful definition of is-ness. Besides, aren't all of the cells in a human body replaced every x years already?

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