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Jack Ma and Elon Musk hold debate in Shanghai

New China TV · 5.8M views · 2019-08-29 · 46:53

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Alibaba's Jack Ma and Tesla's Elon Musk debate artificial intelligence on stage in Shanghai in 2019.

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HN mostly cites it critically, as an example of Jack Ma speaking poorly or naively about machine learning.

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lysace · 2026-01 · Criticism

He was also being widely ridiculed in the west over this interaction with Elon Musk in August 2019, back when Elon was still kinda widely popular. [VIDEO] "I call AI Alibaba Intelligence", etc. (Yeah, I know, Apple stole that one.) Reddit moment: "When Elon Musk realised China's richest man is an idiot ( Jack Ma )" [LINK] I can see the extended loss of face of China (real or perceived) at the time being a factor.

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fossuser · 2020-10 · Criticism

I'm more skeptical after seeing this: [VIDEO] I would have expected being a party member to just be the default in order for anyone to do anything of substance in China, but he comes across extremely poorly in that interview. So poorly, that I find it more likely that the companies are being propped up/operated by the government than someone like him could successfully build/run them. Maybe I'm indexing too much on that, but watch it for yourself, definitely weird.

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renewiltord · 2020-09 · Criticism

Have you listened to Jack Ma talk? He sounds like some kind of total moron in the panel discussion with Elon Musk. I know, you're thinking "It's not his first language. That's what it is" but go watch it yourself¹. The ideas he expresses seem completely unformed and make it look like he's not operating at a particularly high level. But Alibaba is real. It's a real company doing real things and delivering real value. It's a giant success. Now I'm not saying Nikola will be (maybe those shorts for 2022 are pretty cheap) but people speak like complete idiots and still run successful companies that they start. ¹ [VIDEO] Here's a highlight: [VIDEO]

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