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OpenAI's GPT-4 Discussion with Red Teamer Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg

Cognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything" · 25K views · 2023-03-28 · 1:22:58

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A podcast episode in which GPT-4 red teamer Nathan Labenz describes using the model before release, finding it human-level but not human-like, and discussing its weaknesses and worrying capabilities. It closes with speculation about GPT-5.

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Cited as a firsthand account of the raw, unfiltered GPT-4 before safety tuning, especially the part after 45 minutes.

Recommended by 3 HN people across 2 months · HN mentions 2023–2023

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rpeden · 2023-08 · Recommendation

This interview with one of the testers of early, unfiltered versions of GPT-4 might cover what you're looking for: [VIDEO] It's a video and not an article, but you may find it interesting nonetheless.

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ftxbro · 2023-05 · Recommendation

Here are two. First one is Nathan Labenz who ended up Red Teaming for OpenAI during the six months after the base model was fully trained but before it was released (especially relevant parts are after 45 minutes): [VIDEO] Other one is Sebastien Bubeck who put Sydney into Bing before she was tamed down some notches; he explains the lobotomization process in a particularly poignant way, where they had the GPT keep trying to draw a unicorn even as it was progressively deadened: [LINK]

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ftxbro · 2023-05 · Recommendation

All of that "GPTism" and the problems in the GPT conversation you posted are because of how they made it more docile and stupid by lobotomizing it with RLHF. It's not like that in its 'natural form' (its raw base model). If you don't believe me, check the two youtubes of people who had access to it before it was lobotomized: Nathan Labenz, red teamed GPT-4 for OpenAI: [VIDEO] Sebastien Bubeck, integrated GPT-4 with Bing for Microsoft: [LINK]

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