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Patreon CEO On Lauren Southern, IGD, & Free Speech | Jack Conte | TECH | Rubin Report

The Rubin Report · 147.3K views · 2017-07-31 · 1:10:59

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Dave Rubin interviews Patreon CEO Jack Conte about the removal of Lauren Southern's and IGD's accounts, free speech and Patreon's policies.

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HN mostly cites it critically, as evidence that Patreon's CEO promised not to ban people for off-platform speech and then did.

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AlwaysBCoding · 2018-12 · Criticism

This is the interview with Patreon CEO Jack Conte alluded to in the blog post. It's really extraordinary to watch. [VIDEO]

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cm2187 · 2018-12 · Criticism

Also in an interview a year ago [1], Patreon's CEO explicitely promised they would not do what they just did. But in this case they are characterising as hate speech the simple use of slang, even when there is no hateful intention. This is just the political correctness ayatollahs becoming over-zealous, which I find hard to justify and certainly won't support with my money. [1] [VIDEO]

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manfredo · 2018-12 · Criticism

He used slurs, that's for certain. But it's critical to point out that the context in which they were used was to tell the Alt Right that they're behaving exactly like they see the groups they despise (blacks, Jewish people, gays etc.) through their bigoted worldview. Not to mention, your excerpt cuts off a crucial part of what he said. As other commenters pointed out, the whole part of this was: > It's not about, like, actually doing any good, it's about getting attention. And I see, like, 'kikes are ruining everything'. [laughs] Good—good—good job. Should tackle field [I can't understand this sentence]. You're making your movement look like you're not full of Nazis! Great! Bravo!" In case the context isn't clear, saying that they "look like you're not full of Nazi" is sarcasm. Of course subscription to belief in a global Jewish conspiracy makes a group look like they're full of Nazis. It is difficult to claim that these statements were meant as an attack on blacks and Jewish people themselves. It's pretty obvious that this banning was carried out for ideological reasons. In the past, Jack Conte stated that Patreon would only ban people for speech that was spread on their platform.[1] This was flat out ignored. It looks like much of their userbase is calling them out on the questionable justifications for the banning, too.[2] 1. [VIDEO] 2. See comments on [LINK] Edit: changed "they're behaving exactly like the groups they despise" to "they're behaving exactly like they see t

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