Tesla Model S adaptive cruise control crashes into Van

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shanghaiaway · 2018-05 · Criticism

Another auto pilot crash. List so far: 1 Hebei, Fatal China crash [LINK] 2 Florida, Fatal Joshua Brown crashes into truck. [LINK] 3 Mountain view, Fatal Model X crash. [LINK] 4 Reference to auto-pilot crash in Hayward. [LINK] 5 You You Xue crashes in Greece [LINK] 6 Utah autopilot crash, Tesla driver injured, Firetruck driver injured. [LINK] 7 Texas autopilot crash 'Car crashed, then continued to accelerate' [LINK] 8 SF VC autopilot crash, she took over control just before the autopilot crash, Tesla blamed her for being in control when the crash happened. In her words 'its your fault if you take control, its your fault when you do not take control'. [LINK] 9 Laguna Canyon road crash into a parked vehicle. Driver injured. [LINK] 10 FenderBender Crash video on youtube. [VIDEO] 11 Wisconsin Model X crash [LINK] 12. Culver City crash into Fire Truck [LINK] 13 Autopilot crash in Germany [LINK] 14. Model X crashes into Semi in California. Not many details. [LINK] 15. Laguna Canyon road crash into semi at same spot as (9) april 10, 2017. [LINK] There are probably more crashes that have not been reported prominently and not disclosed by Tesla either.

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Animats · 2017-06 · Criticism

The future is here, just not from Tesla. Waymo and Volvo have systems which actually work. Waymo has real situational awareness, watching other road users and predicting what they might do next. Tesla is mostly following the lines on the road and stopping for interfering traffic. Here's Tesla's "Autopilot" killing someone.[1] This is the Mobileye "does not recognize obstacles protruding into left edge of lane" bug. Here's another crash from that defect.[2] Here's Tesla's "Autopilot" hitting a traffic barrier.[3] Again, it's an obstacle at the left edge of a lane. This is what happens when you take Level 2 lane-keeping and automatic cruise control and hype it into automatic driving. Other carmakers have offered comparable systems, but with much stronger driver-must-have-hands-on-wheel enforcement. Tesla didn't do that, encouraging drivers to relax and let the computers drive. Waymo and Volvo take the position that when the automatic system is in control, the manufacturer is responsible. Tesla tries to blame the driver. (Been there, done that. Ran a DARPA Grand Challenge team 2003-2005. Too old now to work on this.) [1] [LINK] [2] [VIDEO] [3] [LINK]

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mikeyouse · 2017-03 · Criticism

Teslas have a serious problem avoiding stationary objects in traffic lanes, especially when following traffic. If you search YouTube for Tesla accidents, there are a big group where the car is following traffic in its lane and it doesn't yield to some object in its lane. Over and over again. From OP: [LINK] Fatal crash in China: [LINK] Another Chinese accident: [LINK] One in Europe: [VIDEO] Another: [LINK] I don't know what system they're using, but they really need to get a handle on it. For as many accidents as they avoid, not hitting stopped objects is pretty important from a safety perspective.

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