Black Hat USA 2013 - Spy-Jacking the Booters

What people said

j_s · 2017-06 · Recommendation

My impression was the crowd's response was more of a "sick burn" (Krebs himself smiles and nods in this manner) rather than booing, shouts of disbelief and guffawing (and clapping) . If anyone is seriously considering avoiding CloudFlare based on your summary of the interaction, I encourage them to view the video for themselves. I personally appreciate the willingness to be true to oneself with a quick-witted reply rather than 100% PR-safe professionalism all the time. However, I don't mean to imply that your impression somehow should change or that you should change your decision! My world would be so much nicer if I could just avoid working with people that rubbed me the wrong way. [VIDEO]

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j_s · 2017-08 · Reference

Surprised no one has linked this back-and-forth discussion at Blackhat 2013 between cybercrime investigative reporter Brian Krebs and CloudFlare CEO Matthew Prince regarding CloudFlare's hosting of "booters"/DDOS marketing sites. I will put a bit of the conversation here, but please do listen to it in context. [VIDEO] (quoting CloudFlare CEO Matthew Prince below, aka eastdakota on HN [LINK] ) 45:52 "Where would you draw the line?" 47:25 "It's really tricky when private organizations act as law enforcement" 47:33 "We try to follow what is due process" 47:56 smart-ass/sick burn re: Krebs's journalism 48:46 "We comply with any court order that we receive" (both takedowns and to not take things down) "unless we feel that it's truly abusive in these cases we [interrupted/unintelligible, maybe: would] ..." 49:00 "There have been some hacking-related sites that we have been asked to take down" source: HN user kefka [LINK]

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kefka · 2017-06 · Criticism

1. CEO is an ass. 2. Supports Booters, script kiddies, and pay-to-play blackhat hackers 3. Fucks over Tor any chance they can get. -------------------------------------------- Proof for said allegations: [Youtube video] [VIDEO] A: He continually berates because "he called and Brian Krebs never responded" B: Cloudflare CEO states that the booters (ddos pay-as-you-go sites protected by cloudflare) don't even pay, or pay with stolen credit cards. And admits is "just a disaster". C: Direct insult towards Krebs onstage "Well, who needs to actually ask questions as a journalist?" 48:08 [/Youtube Video] [LINK] look for user:eastdakota page text:"Yes, you can see Brian's critique of us here:"

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