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The Alt-Right Playbook: Never Play Defense

Innuendo Studios · 1.9M views · 2017-11-29 · 12:17

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Innuendo Studios' video essay in the Alt-Right Playbook series argues that bad-faith actors force opponents to defend their positions, so the way to avoid their trap is to never play defense.

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HN cites it when arguing that debating bad-faith arguers hands them the framing and exposure.

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cassepipe · 2024-07 · Reference

Could we say that biologically/culturally receptive to performed dominance and being dominant has nothing to do with rationally understand the world. I think this is the whole point of the jock/geek binary opposition in culture even though, as all oppositionnal pairs in culture, they are often porquenolosdossed : Some people can perform dominance and do master rationality quite well and some can do neither. Maybe we don't notice it either because they don't fit the cultural mental map or because they are not part of our social milieus (too high or too low status) ? [VIDEO]

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Terr_ · 2023-11 · Reference

Alas, it seems that in practice humans are often motivated by something "short, quippy, and wrong" [0] over something with more details like demarcating areas of ambiguity. So the "better" sources have an uphill fight to be influential. [0] [VIDEO]

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asmor · 2023-06 · Reference

This seems very naive to me. There are enough people yelling "OK Groomer" at me on certain platforms that I know the signal to noise ratio is bad enough that engaging is at best a waste of time and at worst throwing more soundbites than I can debunk or bystanders can dead so I lose the debate (for any bystander) by default. See "Never Play Defense" from the alt-right playbook: [VIDEO] And as an aside - HN is not guilt free on this topic too. There's a general tendency for comments to go right past the topic even outside this. For instance, every remote work thread turns into a generalized remote vs onsite debate, without the specifics of the article being weighed in. Even worse, HN also has a tendency to devolve into calling authors of posts deranged (or deranged, but with nicer choice of words) more for their identity and politics rather than the words they wrote, as was the case with Alyssa Rosenzweig's article being posted a few weeks ago. It simply isn't viable to assume good faith for everyone. I often (unwiesely) get into fights with transphobes that I shouldn't, and I had maybe 2 insightful well-reflected discussions over the past 10 years. Sometimes they'll complement me on not fitting their expectation of an "SJW", but then go on to call me a slur anyway. And when I say slur, I am very positive that this is the right classification. Unambiguously.

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