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Matt Talks About WordPress Situation

The PrimeTime · 211.4K views · 2024-09-26 · 27:01

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Matt Mullenweg joins ThePrimeagen's Twitch stream to discuss the WordPress and WP Engine dispute, including trademark use and contributions.

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HN cites it as the primary source for Mullenweg's own statements during the WP Engine dispute, though some found him unprepared.

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MM-hypocrite · 2025-01 · Reference

> Is there a law that says you have to give back? No. There is a law that says you can’t violate the trademark, so that’s the law that we’re using to try to encourage them to give back. [VIDEO]

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LegionMammal978 · 2024-10 · Reference

As I understand it, Mullenweg has explicitly said in his video interview [0] that no other company is currently paying an 8% license fee. The WordPress Foundation trademark policy page [1] states (since Sep. 24) that its only commercial sublicensee is Newfold Digital, and Mullenweg mentioned this in the same interview, but I don't think that the sum that Newfold pays has been disclosed anywhere. [0] [VIDEO] [1] [LINK]

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shprd · 2024-10 · Reference

It's not new, Matt has been trying to reach an agreement for years.[1] To be fair, he has done everything he can for the health of the ecosystem for all these years. WP Engine leech off the WordPress brand from head to toe. Literally, from trademark to infrastructure, while Automattic covers the bill for the most part. Of course, legally, WPE doesn't have to contribute beyond its mouth but if we are going down that route then also Automattic doesn't have to put up with funding WPE operation anymore. I'm tired of people justifying WPE attitude and behavior by saying "legally, they don't have to contribute", well let's talk legal, everything happening to them is within those same lines too. Why are you complaining if it's legal? This is one of those "fuck around and find out" situation. Matt just run out of fucks to give, and decided it's better to teach the bully a lesson even if it comes at a cost. [1] [VIDEO]

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