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A long George Hotz live-stream from June 2023 in which he works on tinygrad and rants about AMD's drivers, ultimately declaring he is giving up on AMD. It also touches on hardware and compiler topics.

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Mostly cited as the source of Hotz's AMD driver rant, which some commenters found validating and others found unflattering.

Discussed on HN; no positive recommendation is recorded in this export · HN mentions 2023–2024

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roenxi · 2024-03 · Reference

So for reference, this geohot is George Hotz who has a company Tiny Corp [0] in the space. Among a long list of things, he had a moment in the spotlight recently for a long rant [1] where he "gave up on AMD" because their drivers sucked more than he expected. The situation is reasonably complex - AMD have some programmers working on ROCm who seemed to be operating at standard fare when that is really not what AMD needs right now (I personally, suspect there is/was a PM in a key position who didn't "get it", although I am not sure what it is either). As far as I know it got the attention of Lisa Su. I'm cheering him on, even though his complaints were a little melodramatic. My experience is the driver technically supports everything I could possibly want. The problem is if I spend an evening trying to do anything with OpenCL or ROCm the kernel hard-locks and I go to bed early. If the problem inside is what it looks like from the outside (repeating myself, a key manager somewhere just doesn't get the space) they really need some pressure from grumpy customers like George to realign their software development process. That context might be related to this particular case. I see a suspicious folder called "crash" in this repo. [0] [LINK] [1] [VIDEO] - as I recall he ran the demo suite and it crashed.

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ImprobableTruth · 2023-08 · Criticism

They're talking about the meltdown he had on stream [1] (in front of the mentioned pirate flag), that ended with him saying he'd stop using AMD hardware [2]. He recanted this two weeks after talking with AMD [3]. Maybe he'll succeed, but this definitely doesn't scream stability to me. I'd be wary of investing money into his ventures (but then I'm not a VC, so what do I know). [1] [VIDEO] [2] [LINK] [3] [LINK]

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XTXinverseXTY · 2023-08 · Reference

> according to George Hotz In this video from June, George Hotz says to go with "3090s over 4090s. 3090s have NVLink... 4090s are $1600 and 3090s are 750. RAM bandwidth is about the same." Has he changed his recommendations since then? [VIDEO]

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